that the president campaigned on raising tax rates, you know, and it was the big issue, between him and romney, and, they say, just as he had to cave, after your victory, in the 2010 midterms, now, it is your turn to cave on tax rates. >> what is this difference where the money comes from? we put $800 billion worth of revenue, what he is asking for, out of eliminating the top two tax rates. but, here's the problem, chris: when you go and increase tax rates, you make it more difficult for our economy to go, after that income, the small business income, it is going to get tackxed at a higher rate an as a result we'll see slower economic growth, we can't cut or grow our way out of the problem, we have to have a balanced approach and the president wants to slow or economy at a time when he says he wants the economy to grow and create jobs. >> chris: the white house says that while you have given this kind of talk, about, well, let's close loopholes and limit deductions, you have not offered any specifics, have you. >> we have laid it all out for them, a dozen ways to raise the revenue from the richest